In August 2022, Curtis Yarvin sat down with Tim Dillon and described the one large system he had actually built. Urbit, he said, still existed. “Please don’t look into it. It’s not cool at all.” It was “too complicated to use.” A couple of minutes later he added that he could not even tell you how to use it. “Actually, it’s probably too complicated for me.” And then, in case the point had been too subtle: “it frankly doesn’t work very well… you shouldn’t go there.”
This is not a heckler. This is the founder, on a comedy podcast, telling the audience to stay away.
I already wrote about what happened when a piece of Yarvin’s political program met the federal government. The Theory That Cannot Fail asked what the receipts showed, and why every outcome got reclassified as insufficient autocracy. This post is a different question. He wants to tell us how to rewrite the entire political system. The one large system he shipped does not give us much reason to take that claim on faith. That does not prove the political ideas are wrong. It asks why we would trust him without testing the assumptions.
The Parallel Is the Method
Urbit was a clean-slate rewrite of computing. New operating system, new languages, new address space, new assumptions stacked for years before anyone could use the product. The pitch was that the existing stack was an accident of history, and that a mind willing to start over could replace it with something more beautiful.
Neocameralism is the same move applied to the state. The Constitution is a dead letter. Democracy is a costume. Start over. Install a CEO-king. Residents become customers. Exit replaces voice.
Theories are easy. Translation into a working system is the hard part. That is where assumptions die — against physics, users, supply chains, other people. Yarvin’s habit is to skip that part, then grade the people who tried a fragment of the plan.
The Sideline Cannot Fail
He wrote the blueprint. He coined RAGE more than a decade before DOGE. He attended the court parties. Then he sat out the implementation and called the operators insufficiently committed.
Criticism from the bleachers cannot fail. If they succeed, the theory is vindicated. If they fail, they were too timid. Yarvin never has to ship. That is a perfectly safe environment. It is also a reason to discount the grade.
He Scorns the Person With More on the Board
Elon Musk spent more than $250 million supporting Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign, then ran the Department of Government Efficiency from the Eisenhower Executive Office Building. Yarvin spent words. In March 2025, in “Barbarians and mandarins,” he wrote that “Not only can Elon not manage an operation on this basis — God himself could not manage it.” The Washington Post put the whole move in a headline: “Curtis Yarvin helped inspire DOGE. Now he scorns it.” When a fan said Musk was fulfilling the neoreactionary dream, the Post reported Yarvin’s reply: “I wish.”
I want to be precise about Musk. This site has already said what it thinks of the abundance rhetoric and the political spending. This is not a rehabilitation, and it is not an argument that Musk was right about government.
It is an argument about systems. Regardless of what you think of him, reusable orbital rockets, a mass-market EV company that forced the industry to move, and a satellite network that actually works are systems that survived contact with physics, supply chains, and customers. That is systems thinking with a scoreboard. Yarvin’s flagship system is the one he told Tim Dillon not to seek out.
His standard — they will not do what is necessary — is being applied downward, from a theorist with an untested stack, to someone who has repeatedly turned hard constraints into working machines. Appeals for more ruthlessness from someone with less at risk, and less shipped, read as hypocrisy.
The Outsider Costume
In a January 2025 New York Times interview, Yarvin said, “I don’t think I’m even going to the inauguration.” Asked if he had been invited: “No. I’m an outsider, man. I’m an intellectual.”
Then he went to Washington. Politico described him as informal guest of honor at Passage Press’s Coronation Ball on inauguration weekend. He greeted JD Vance. He lunched with Michael Anton. I want to be exact: the Times line is about the inauguration itself. The documented appearance is the court party next door. That is enough.
An uninvolved intellectual does not need a flight plan. In October 2025, in “You can’t handle the truth,” he wrote that the second Trump revolution was failing, “because it deserves to fail,” and that the vengeance after its failure would dwarf 2020. The first version, as the San Francisco Standard quoted it, said: “I feel that I personally have to start thinking realistically about how to flee the country. Everyone else in a similar position should have a 2029 plan as well.” He added that it might not wait until 2029 — losing Congress would put the administration on the defensive.
Then he edited the personal line out. The replacement was “everyone involved with this revolution needs a plan B for 2029.” The Standard asked why. His reply: “Lol Streisand effect I guess. Just TMI.” Asked which countries: “Lol no idea. Obviously I’d rather not.”
Do not write this as a panic. Write it as a costume slipping. Someone who knows he is close enough to catch blowback needs an exit. Someone who is just an intellectual does not. The edit that called the first version too much information is part of the evidence. He sells distance. The record is that he is more connected, and more concerned, than he wants to admit.
If that flight plan lands in Milei’s Argentina, we will know something about the allegiance. He already filed Milei with the barbarians. Exit was always the theory. Argentina would just put it on a map.
He Lives Inside the Thing He Wants Demolished
As of 2025 he was in a Craftsman in the Berkeley Hills, half an hour from San Francisco. El País visited him there. So did the New Yorker. He bought into the Bay Area earlier with a condo near Haight-Ashbury after the Phone.com IPO.
He is against “the libs.” He built a theory whose design, in Patchwork, is “all ’exit,’ no ‘voice.’” He did not exit. He stayed in one of the densest concentrations of the universities, media-adjacent wealth, and liberal municipal institutions he wants liquidated — and he continues to reap what those institutions produce. Property values. A functioning city. A venture-capital hinterland. The surplus of a place that did not take his advice.
Lots of people criticize their hometown. The charge here is narrower. He does not live the product he is selling. The sermon is demolition. The zip code is the benefit.
The Filter He Does Not Have to Clear
The political work lives on Unqualified Reservations, Gray Mirror, and Passage Press — not in refereed political-science or political-philosophy journals. That is a venue choice. Blogging is a legitimate form. This site is a blog. Essayists are not fake for skipping the American Political Science Review.
He knows what a filter is. He has a 1993 USENIX paper from Berkeley computer science. He left the PhD. The political theory never has to clear referees who can make you answer objections, cite contrary evidence, and shrink a claim before it ships. A Substack has a post-publication audience. Those are different tests.
He chose the cheaper one for the political theory, then collects the authority the expensive one is supposed to confer — staffers, Vance citations, “the most crisp articulation” of what DOGE was trying to do. His own account of the Cathedral is that academia plus journalism is a prestige cartel. “I am excluded” is built into the theory. Any rejection is capture, not a quality signal. A theory that makes every rejection proof of a cathedral cannot be distinguished from a theory that would fail a referee.
If the defense is exclusion, the work still has to be judged by whether it would survive the filter, not by the grievance. Skipping peer review does not make an idea false. Publishing in a journal would not make it true. The narrower point is the one that matters: you do not get to skip the hard test and still collect the authority the test is for.
I Want to Be Fair
He did spend about seventeen years on Urbit. It began as a personal project in 2002. He co-founded Tlon in 2013. He published A Founder’s Farewell in 2019 and left. That is not “he never builds.” The charge is that he built off untested assumptions — a whole stack whose complexity he later treated as a reason not to use it — and that this is a weak credential for redesigning a country.
He came back. In August 2024, after the Urbit Foundation was running out of money, CoinDesk reported his return as informal wartime CEO. His own diagnosis: they had pretended the system was more mature than it was. “The result was a lot of dead code and a lot of disappointed people.” The project was “still default-dead.” That return does not erase the Tim Dillon disavowal. It is another lap of the same pattern. Theory. Mess. Blame the operators. Re-enter as the mind who sees clearly.
What This Does and Does Not Prove
Urbit’s failure does not falsify monarchy-as-CEO. A bad compiler does not disprove a political philosophy. Granting Musk a systems record does not make him a hero, a good DOGE director, or a model sovereign. Living in Berkeley does not make a person a liberal. Skipping journals does not settle the argument.
The honest claim is smaller and stronger. If your pitch is systems competence, the system you shipped is the evidence. If your pitch is that the operators lacked will, you should have more at stake than a Substack, and more working systems than the one you told people to avoid. Why accept an untested political architecture from someone whose own flagship architecture became, in his words, too complicated and not worth seeking out — and who keeps the one job that cannot be audited: the critic who was never really in the room?
We should test assumptions before we let anyone rewrite the load-bearing parts of a country. He wants the rewrite without the test, and the credit without the risk. Ideas are easy. That is the easy way out.
Sources
Yarvin in his own words:
- The Acid Story with Curtis Yarvin (The Tim Dillon Show #310, Aug. 7, 2022)
- A Founder’s Farewell (Urbit, 2019)
- A brief explanation of the cathedral (Gray Mirror)
- Barbarians and mandarins (Gray Mirror, Mar. 6, 2025)
- You can’t handle the truth (Gray Mirror, Oct. 5, 2025)
- Patchwork (2008)
- Anonymous RPC: Low-Latency Protection in a 64-Bit Address Space (USENIX, 1993)
Reporting:
- Curtis Yarvin Says Democracy is Done (New York Times, Jan. 2025)
- Curtis Yarvin’s Ideas Were Fringe. Now They’re Coursing Through Trump’s Washington. (Politico, Jan. 2025)
- Curtis Yarvin helped inspire DOGE. Now he scorns it. (Washington Post, May 2025)
- Curtis Yarvin’s Plot Against America (New Yorker, June 2025)
- Curtis Yarvin’s brave new world (El País, Aug. 2025)
- Citing fear of Democratic ‘vengeance,’ Curtis Yarvin says he may flee the U.S. (San Francisco Standard, Oct. 2025)
- ‘Wartime CEO’: Urbit’s Founder Returns (CoinDesk, Aug. 2024)
